Jim Shaw and Mike Kelley on the Universal World Church

The following is an excerpt from an interview between Los Angeles based artists Mike Kelley and Jim Shaw. This dialog is published identically in the books Mike Kelley: Interviews, Conversations, and Chit-chat, 1986-2004 and "Jim Shaw:Everything Must Go, 1974-1999".

MK: You did a booklet in the style of Awake. There was also a golden altar--didn't that reference the altar at the Universal World Church, which is a strange charismatic church where they mix Christian and UFO beliefs? JS: Yes, the church run by Dr. Jaggers and Miss Velma--that was a part of it. When I went to a service there they had a booklet about meetings with UFOs; the motherships were supposed to be seraphim and the smaller ones cherubim. Watching them on TV every week certainly influenced me.